Tuesday, September 28, 2010

Mind uploading via Gmail

To whom it may concern:

I am writing this in 2010. My Gmail account has more than 5GB of data, which contain some information about me and also some information about the persons I have exchanged email with, including some personal and private information.

I am assuming that in 2060 (50 years from now), my Gmail account will have hundreds or thousands of TB of data, which will contain a lot of information about me and the persons I exchanged email with, including a lot of personal and private information. I am also assuming that, in 2060:

1) The data in the accounts of all Gmail users since 2004 is available.
2) AI-based mindware technology able to reconstruct individual mindfiles by analyzing the information in their aggregate Gmail accounts and other available information, with sufficient accuracy for mind uploading via detailed personality reconstruction, is available.
3) The technology to crack Gmail passwords is available, but illegal without the consent of the account owners (or their heirs).
4) Many of today's Gmail users, including myself, are already dead and cannot give permission to use the data in their accounts.

If all assumptions above are correct, I hereby give permission to Google and/or other parties to read all data in my Gmail account and use them together with other available information to reconstruct my mindfile with sufficient accuracy for mind uploading via detailed personality reconstruction, and express my wish that they do so.

Signed by Giulio Prisco on September 28, 2010, and witnessed by readers.

NOTE: The accuracy of the process outlined above increases with the number of persons who give their permission to do the same. You can give your permission in comments, Twitter or other public spaces.

25 comments:

  1. /sign Khannea Suntzu, Terasem foundation, Giulio Prisco and CyBeRev have access to all passwords of all online assets. I express to be re-awakened as 'Khannea', just before Giulio, so I can kiss him awake and tittyhug him, holding a double espresso.

    MORNING SUNSHINE

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  2. @Khannea - good that you include Terasem and ByBeRev, if I am the only one who has the permission to unlock your data they cannot process you before me!
    Also eggs and bacon please, and cigarettes, and a drink, I hope we recover our joie de vivre by 2060.

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  3. They can process you fiesta, but reawaken you second.

    P.S. Danila Medvedev - medvedev@transhuman.ru gmail account. Permission to revive granted.

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  4. I give my permission but only for mind uploading procedure and after my death. :)

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  5. My gmail account consists almost solely of spam, so it is useful only to revive spambots.

    As for whether this actually works, it is an interesting problem:
    http://www.aleph.se/andart/archives/2010/09/uploading_by_gmail.html

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  6. Come on Anders, surely a technology able to reconstruct a mindfile is also able to delete spam!

    Well... make that "probably", or even "hopefully".

    Reading your blog, more comments there soon.

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  7. It would be a good idea to add to your permission statement some reasonable requirements about civil rights of your reconstructed mind. To exclude possibility to be resurrected as a slave or a toy or in some other similarly unpleasant conditions.

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  8. Waste of time! Why does everybody ALWAYS forget tot factor in block time. Space-time is the ultimate recording media. We will sit around the old hypersphere player and relive our escapades just like it was an old "I Love Lucy" episode :)


    permission granted.

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  9. @James - if I understand your comment, you are saying that our thoughts and memories are "automatically" recorded and stored in the fabric of space-time.

    I find the idea intriguing, though I am not aware of any experimental result or theoretical framework pointing to this direction. Can you explain more?

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  10. @finagl - I have thought of this point. But surely those nasty enough to resurrect people as slaves or toys would not be deterred by lack of written permission, would they?

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  11. Independent of the fact that my 10+ e-mail accounts mostly contain scientific documents and mailing list content, I see considerable issues in regard to the privacy and data protection of information from third parties. You speak of "all data" on your account, which in my interpretation includes the inbox, attachments and even classified content. Maybe this will be irrelevant by 2050, but according to current law and practice, your decision involves third party interests and in my view is thus not only your own decision.

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  12. Good idea. I have published my own permission, with some additional caveats, at http://xuenay.livejournal.com/335747.html.

    Anders: I don't think the comparison to a cryptographical RNG makes much sense. Cryptographic functions are by definition designed to be as hard to predict as possible. Human brains are not.

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  13. @Arhant (and all those who have made similar comments elsewhere) - Good point. I believe according to current law I am entitled to forward to others any received email, unless it contains an explicit request to keep it confidential. Excluding these messages from the scan would be much simpler than other technologies involved.

    However, we are making the assumption that Gmail archives would be scanned by AIs and not by humans (this should perhaps be more explicit), which is what happens now: the primitive AIs of Google scan all your Gmail to extract keywords for Adsense, and they are becoming more and more "intelligent" at this task.

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  14. My gmail account doesn't have much in it, but *permission granted*. I've not only given Terasem permission to "Beam me up, Scotty!" in all the check boxes online provided by CyBeRev & LifeNaut, but I've put this in writing in my Trust and several other places, notarized, and have consented to it otherwise in every way feasible.

    My CyBeRev files include an increasing number of READ ME FIRST, or READ ME NOW notes that attempt to have a conversation with whoever is picking out platforms for emulation, etc., hoping that this will help. In them, among other things, I've asked them to consider the fact that "how I am right now" is probably not quite "what I want to be", so I'd like a huge thing like a graphic equalizer available (visible and under conscious control within my cyberbrain) that permits adjustment of all personality characteristics. The book stores are crammed with self-help and personal-development books, indicating that everyone wants to "change" one way or another. Why not build in ways to make that easy once it *is* actually easy. After all, why should I care how "recognizeable" I am to the people I know now. Most of them aren't going to be there (except for you guys) at the beginning, and later, I'll have changed anyway, even without the equalizer.

    This topic is endlessly fascinating. Thanks for launching it, Giulio. - Fred

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  15. Oh, one more thing about the "graphic equalizer personality emulation adjustment" utility. With this thing in place, once the dimensions of it are standard so as to be as visible (if you wish it) as the expression on your face, it will be easy to see possible mismatches (conflicts possible?) before you ever begin to speak, and it might be reasonable if you are fairly close and working in a cooperative way with others to have a convention of temporarily "meeting them half way" (reverting to your ordinary default settings after the conversation is over), so that your interactions are in a very high state of harmony.

    This is going to be a lot of fun. Almost Everyone is going to want to do it. In the end, the only ones who choose to "stay bio" will be those "stick in the muds" who can't give up the idea that if they had to give up the artificial self-esteem of "I'm better than you because I've got more toys" kind of mentality, it just "wouldn't be them" anymore!

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  16. @Anders re "Some minds are likely nonreconstructible (imagine the "mind" that just stores a list of its future actions is another example: it can be reconstructed up until the point where the data runs out, and then becomes completely opaque), but other minds are likely trivially reconstructible (like the "mind" that just outputs 1 at every opportunity)." on your blog - Note: I am unable to leave a comment on your blog, have you disabled comments?

    Perhaps these two minds are not "interesting" enough to be considered as minds, and certainly not complex enough to be self-aware. In general, the reconstruction must not necessarily be lossless, but it can be lossy provided the result is still fit for purpose, the purpose being to re-instantiate a valid copy of the original mind. By "valid copy" I mean that both the original and the copy are able and willing to accept the copy as a continuation of the original.

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  17. @Fred - the "graphic equalizer personality emulation adjustment" utility is a very interesting concept (described in, among others, most Greg Egan's novels).

    I would want to keep some memories and some aspects of my personality in order to continue feeling like me, but I would cheerfully do without some others. I guess one will be able to make many adjustment and still be a valid continuation of the previous self (se comment above) but of course there will be the danger of becoming another person entirely.

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  18. All of the memories would be vital, even those of how turmoil filled and uncomfortable the biological life-cycle had been. Otherwise, how could one keep alive the fullest sense of gratitude for having emerged from it?

    The book Viktor Frankl wrote after the end of the Second World War, "Man's Search For Meaning", about his experiences of being the Jewish physician-psychiatrist who had been given the job of being 'camp doctor' at Auschwitz, where he later learned that his wife in the 'woman's camp' had been sent to the gas chambers on Xmas eve, epitomizes for me the experience of being 'sent to Hell' and having come back to recount the acts of generosity and bravery of the prisoners, which he says far surpassed those of ordinary civilized life, and laid the basis for his later works on how humans search for meaning in their lives, with various results, all of which seem to be related to contrasts.

    Our personal memories, especially those things we have written, are the "facts" of our earlier existence, and those we take with us as the foundation on which we build whatever we later grow to be.

    (This could go on, and doubtless will, literally 'forever'!)

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  19. I hereby consent to the Powers of the Future doing whatever the hell they think is right. OMG they are so much smarter than I am. Guess what would be best, Future Powers! Don't leave anything to my pathetic little monkey-thoughts! Kthx.

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  20. @Kaj - your version has some great improvements to the original wording!

    These permissions are given with the caveat that my uploaded copy should only be created if it will be treated in such a way that it is reasonable to assume that the currently living me would not, when presented with a description of the situation the uploaded copy ended up in, regret having given this permission. This clause is mainly intended to exclude the possibility of e.g. sadistic torture worlds, and is worded to make reference to my and not the copy's wishes to exclude possibilities such as editing the copy to not even be aware of the possibility of things being any better.

    Should any of the content in this post become irrelevant or inapplicable because of future technological developments, the spirit and not the letter of the post should be adhered to.


    http://xuenay.livejournal.com/335747.html

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  21. Permission granted, for this and any other online accounts linked to my person, as detailed in an email I'm sending myself right now. With any luck the digitized-from-email me will meet the reinstantiated-from-cryo me. Or I'll jog/walk/swim and eat right and make it to 78. Seems reasonable.

    Great post! Nice looking blog, as well.

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  23. jamesmurray637@gmail.com im only 18 just now but When i die Knock yourself out :)

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